Comments on: ColdFusion 8.0.1 EULA Changes

By: Clint

Clint — Sun, 11 May 2008 20:31:43 +0000

I’m also curious about the number of licenses required for use on EC2. I’m very interested in using ColdFusion there, but Amazon abstracts away all of the implementation of the virtual machines, and that means I can’t calculate my license needs.

By: johnb

johnb — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:07:03 +0000

it’s tough….I woudn’t like to offer a suggestion except to license the maximum number of CPUs it’s able to run on. Enterprise license wording is about how many processors the software operates on – different to Standard which is how many processors the software is installed on. I’m only just getting started with EC2 but given the flexibility of it and the unflexibility (although the new changes are very much welcome) of the CF EULA I’m going to be waiting for the Open BlueDragon to play with that up in the cloud.

By: Christopher Bradford

Christopher Bradford — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:17:38 +0000

I’m not aware of a way to know how many physical CPUs CF is running on in an EC2 instance. So how does this new EULA help with EC2 when the software is running?

By: johnb

johnb — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:19:50 +0000

funnily enough i did that immediately after i first posted this – going to get it checked by Adobe first before releasing it.

By: RyanTJ

RyanTJ — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:17:02 +0000

Adobe, or someone, should make an AIR app for calculating how many licenses you need for a VM setup.

By: johnb

johnb — Sat, 05 Apr 2008 14:53:18 +0000

yep,you got it. 2 quad core’s are 2 physical proccessors so 1 CF license will cover both of them. With Enterprise the VM’s don’t affect license count.

By: Gary F

Gary F — Sat, 05 Apr 2008 14:22:47 +0000

Ah, thanks for that, John. So on a server with 2x quad core CPUs I can run 8 VMs with CF on each one and just pay for one Ent license (of 2 cpus).

That works really well for server consolidation and cost saving.

By: johnb

johnb — Sat, 05 Apr 2008 13:38:54 +0000

Hi Gary,

on a 2 cpu box for CF enterprise you only need to buy 1 box of CF Enterprise – it covers 2 CPUs. The number of VMs is irrelevant when you’re running enterprise.

By: Gary F

Gary F — Sat, 05 Apr 2008 13:21:58 +0000

It’s an improvement and kudos for Jason and Adobe for listening. But I don’t get this: Enterprise comes with 2 cpu licenses, but is one or two of those cpu licenses consumed for each VM?

e.g. on a 2 cpu box with 4 VMs, does that require 2 or 4 purchases of CF Ent? $8000 x 2 or $8000 x 4?

If it requires 4 purchases then that’s unfair as each VM consumes half a physical cpu, not 2 cpus. Am I off track or is that right?

By: Mary Jo Sminkey

Mary Jo Sminkey — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:55:05 +0000

Well, this probably is going to have more people looking at BlueDragon (and Railo) I think. While certainly it’s understandable that Adobe wants to try and get licenses for every copy of ColdFusion being used, the customers that generally want virtual machines are those that can’t afford their own box, and thus also are going to balk at the pricing of ColdFusion over other options like PHP and .Net. It’s a shame that Adobe can’t see that trying to extract a full license price out of them is simply going to make them go elsewhere. The pricing of Enterprise is so much higher, I’m not sure it would help considering the fairly low number of virtual machines you likely run on a single box.